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the exile 6:02 Thu Jul 16
Could any of our young players break through next season?

A few have already been in match-day squads recently - Johnson, Silva, Cardoso and Lewis. Then there's Holland - it all seems to have gone a bit quiet with him. Is he injured again? Surely he needs to either break through or move on - can't see him going on loan again, and he won't have a chance unless both Anderson and Yarmolenko are out of the picture. Kemp and Rosa also seem to be highly rated but are they good enough to make it? Then there's not-so-young Cullen - keep or sell? Which of our youngsters should go out on loan?

diehardhammer 6:30 Thu Jul 16
Re: Could any of our young players break through next season?

Given that Moyes isn’t giving Johnson a chance despite both full backs having shite form lately

I don’t think many more will get a chance

Vexed 6:33 Thu Jul 16
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They're all shit, so unlikely.

pdbis 6:44 Thu Jul 16
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With reports of him looking at Jones & Lingard from Man Utd I don't hold out much hope of him giving any of the youngsters a chance. Johnson should be given a chance to prove himself, but might have to do it elsewhere. I think if someone makes a bid of a million for Holland he will be off.

lab 6:53 Thu Jul 16
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Silva , IMO, should be starting .

the exile 6:54 Thu Jul 16
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diehardhammer - I would think that's mainly due to not wanting to play a rookie in the middle of a relegation battle.

alfie romeo 7:17 Thu Jul 16
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Does it even matter if we can't even sign our own academy products? The Ngakia situation is absurd. And today we're linked with the Middlesbrough right back who's the same age.

Vexed 7:36 Thu Jul 16
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You cant do much if your championship level full back prospect thinks he's better than the deal the club offer. He's currently without a club.

The club had it's pants pulled down with the idiot Oxford and numerous others that have amounted to nothing, you can understand their reticence to have them pulled down again.

If only they'd learn from the countless mistakes they've made in buying first team players. The CUNTS.

geoffpikey 9:00 Thu Jul 16
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Holland was rumoured to be "available" for circa £1m.

Sad reality is "the Academy" turns out decent pros, but very few top level.

Holland - did just ok at Oxford this season
Marcus Browne - ditto, and that's after a loan from Boro
Conor Coventry - meh at Lincoln. Not many games.
Josh Cullen - pretty good season at Charlton, but that may be the peak
Reece Burke - regular now at Hull, who are terrible

These were all "talked up". Been that way for years.
Reece Oxford - bench at poor Bundesliga side.
Remember the pant-wetting over Sears just cos he scored on his WHU debut. Championship level, if decent.

Rice (obvs) Diangana look mustard (the latter, a later bloomer) and Silva is looking good at a hard-to-judge level. Johnson MAY prove good as a Prem regular.

Ngakia was barely rated by WHU u23s until he played 1st team through sheer necessity. And long term, the coaches obviously still don't think he's that good... or good as HE thought.

Bit bored of reading about our 16 year old wonderkids, tbh, who all end up League 2. Of FA Youth Cup Winners 1999, only Carrick and Cole (I think) had top careers. Izzy Iriekpen (captain) went to Swansea... Hamilton Academicals.... Jail!

Can't sign/keep everyone. Our "Academy" is all blather, compared with Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea etc. As you'd expect! A bigger problem is keeping players when they ARE good.

ornchurch ammer 10:12 Thu Jul 16
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They could if given a chance.

Who at Spurs thought Kane would progress as he has while they were sending him out on loan?

Who thought that Ngakia would do so well that people are distraught at him leaving after a handful of games.

geoffpikey 10:32 Thu Jul 16
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Yeah, I know. We're never really good enough as a whole to "risk the kids" though. Chicken and egg situation, granted.

Cup run wth the youth!! That, I would like to see. And I would forgive it if we fail. But we currently use Cups just to confirm the jelliness of the foreign dandies.

Oh, I dunno. Fucking West Ham. Bubbles... Dreams... Die... Cunts. Haha.

Jasnik 10:51 Thu Jul 16
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Ngakia - still don;t get it .

Where has he signed exactly?

Jasnik 10:52 Thu Jul 16
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Diangana - I would expect to see him next year.

LeroysBoots 10:53 Thu Jul 16
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Job centre

Alfs 10:58 Thu Jul 16
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I've read a few positive things about Alfie Lewis. Does anyone know much about him?

Willtell 1:08 Fri Jul 17
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Yeh Diangana is one of those guys that mistakes come off for so yes - I think we'll see a lot of him next season...

the exile 2:16 Fri Jul 17
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Heard a lot about Lewis as a gifted midfielder, but then we heard similar stuff about Connor Coventry...

It's always a dilemma - we want the youngsters to be given a chance and make a go of it, if they're any good. But of course, we also want the club to make good signings.

Stubbo 8:57 Fri Jul 17
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With us suffering Wilshere another season and Noble still about, as well as Soucek coming in if we stay up, and either a Declan sized hole that will need filling or another year from Dec, not a snowball chance in hell a squad place will go to Cullen - if they by some miracle got shot of a central midfielder that we don't actually want, then maybe...but that seems pretty unlikely. Im expecting same with Silva too who really needed to have been out on loan this season (bad time for his medical problems).

Expect Johnson will go on loan - hopefully in upper reaches of Championship for half a season.

Diangana likely to be the one that truly "breaks through" next season (or underwhelms in pre season and gets sold to WBA).

Vexed 9:52 Fri Jul 17
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Kane was an interesting one, spent lots of time out on loan and don't look particularly good. Was hawked about for 1.5m with no takers then gets a chance in an injury crisis and turns into a goal machine. Freak occurrence you'd think.

Diangana has earned a chance next season, but I fear his level is championship/bottom of premier league a bit like Stanislas' was. I'd have him back at the moment though!

Like everything else at the club our academy isn't particularly good and players turn up with promise and then plateau. But if its producing million pound notes then it'll remain that way. The first team isn't benefiting from our academy at all really and players dont seem to have much hope that they'll break into the team ahead of the plethora of overpaid wasters we have blocking their way.

It's ok Hammers United are on it. They'll sort it. Pah.

Mex Martillo 10:08 Fri Jul 17
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Teams are too risk averse these days and don’t give youngsters much of a chance.
Look at Chelsea, transfer ban and no alternative other than picking young unproven players + they even got Lampard in. I really thought they were in trouble, but they’ve done pretty well. You could say similar about Solckjaer and ManU.
I hope Moyes gives some of ours a go next season, if we win tonight, I would definitely like to see Silva start in the last 2 games.

Vexed 10:11 Fri Jul 17
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Chelsea and Manc United are dealing with a much higher calibre of young player. It really isn't the same situation.

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